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Michkov returns to lineup in heroic fashion as Flyers vanquish Sharks in shootout

Charlie O'Connor
Charlie O'Connor
November 12, 2024
Michkov returns to lineup in heroic fashion as Flyers vanquish Sharks in shootout
Nov 11, 2024; Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA; Philadelphia Flyers right wing Matvei Michkov (39) celebrates his goal against the San Jose Sharks during the shootout period at Wells Fargo Center. Mandatory Credit: Eric Hartline-Imagn Images

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Jason

Jason

November 12, 2024

It’s kind of nuts that it took Torts longer to scratch Frost than Michkov. His scratching of the latter reeked of the coach’s “petty tyrant” proclivities.

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guadzilla

guadzilla

November 12, 2024

Torts scratchings seem to follow a method – if the player is not applying lessons, either due to lack of effort or failure to comprehend, he sits them down for a while so they can observe and learn. He doesn’t seem to scratch players who are making an effort.

There is a very good argument to be made that sitting Michkov so he can observe a game or two, and also curb his ability to break the structure, is good for him.

And that’s far more believable than the idea that a well-respected coach with a history of developing young players is somehow being a “petty tyrant” for no reason.

Frost – I suspect his lack of being scratched is because his issues dont stem from a lack of effort in following the structure.

guadzilla

guadzilla

November 12, 2024

“The risks involved with scratching Michkov were threefold. First, there was the possibility that they’d lose games in the here and now with one of their most gifted offensive players out of the lineup. Second, there was the chance that Michkov would sulk as a result of the benching, and return an even less effective player than he was before he sat. And third, it risked opening up a breach with between and coach that no one involved in the situation wants to see”:

1). Who cares about W/L this year?

2). I realise that hockey now is not the hockey of the 90s, but the culture of the sport is still team-first and one that eschews prima donnas. Worrying about a rookie sulking for a deserved benching/short rest where he can focus on improving his game feels like a very surreal complaint.

3). Point 3 is basically an extension of point 2, and the response is the same.

Calling Tort’s tactics “shenanigans” feels like a very weird take, when he has a proven history of developing younger players and when the scratch in question was deserved. I haven’t heard any hockey arguments against in, only those involving hurt feelings and sulking.

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Stephen Schmidt

Stephen Schmidt

November 13, 2024

You honestly feel sitting your second best/maybe best offensive talent on the team for two games was warranted (especially when this team is/was struggling offensively)? Charlie is dead on, these are shenanigans. Michkov has a high enough hockey IQ to figure things out on the ice. Letting young players play through things, especially a 19 year old from the KHL, seems more prudent than having him watch from the press box. I’m fine with having him miss shifts in games to get a point across, but Torts is insane imho. Of course, he “looks good” despite this because Michkov is so talented. I also thought his whole sentiment was to not try and change Michkov’s game. We saw this during the game: cheating early because he anticipated a breakaway opportunity, still over staying shifts, and still in my mind trying to find open ice in the final 3rd (the puck support thing is overblown imho). The turnovers at the blue line are killers, and he’ll get better by playing through that and learning what he can get away with at the NHL level.

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guadzilla

guadzilla

November 15, 2024

I dont have a strong opinion here – but I am 100% sure that a hockey lifer knows better about the specific issues and how to fix them than online commentators like us (or even like Charlie). So with the facts that we have, no one here should have a strong opinion one way or the other either (which was my point).

Win/loss? Who cares. The goal isn’t to win this year – it is to build structure.

Not changing Michkov’s game – that’s a straw man. The goal is to not make him a checking forward. But that doesn’t mean he doesn’t have areas he can improve – and playing within a team’s structure is a pretty important part of hockey, last I checked.

We dont know why he wasn’t learning – maybe he wasn’t taking it seriously. Maybe being in the game had him to focused on playing, and sitting back helped.

It seems like hubris to me to think that you or I have a better idea on what the correct course of action here was than a coach who has a proven track record of getting his younger players to play with structure and to their strengths.

YMMV.

Andrew Chambers

Andrew Chambers

November 12, 2024

Unrelated note – watching brink this season does anyone else think he looks a lot faster? He looked actively slow last year but seems to have legitimate jump this year

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