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Flyers “stars” lead the way in opening night victory

Charlie O'Connor
Charlie O'Connor
October 13, 2023
Flyers “stars” lead the way in opening night victory
Oct 12, 2023; Columbus, Ohio, USA; Philadelphia Flyers goaltender Carter Hart (79) and right wing Cam Atkinson (89) celebrate on the ice after defeating the Columbus Blue Jackets at Nationwide Arena. Mandatory Credit: Aaron Doster-USA TODAY Sports

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MarioD

MarioD

October 13, 2023

What are the chances they like how they played last night and stick with the same lineup Saturday? Then you have to give respect to the veterans for the HOME opener. And given the competition is the dregs of the league (Columbus, Ottawa, Vancouver) they could well be 3-0 and you don’t mess with a winning formula….

The first six weeks of the NHL is meaningless and unpredictable randomness. Play settles down around Veteran’s Day.

But there is talent on this team that people continue to undervalue. Travis Sanheim being the prime example. Zamula being another. The Flyers have been a much better team than their record due to shit decision from the GM and shit coaching. Provorov’s comments are part of this. Neither Vigneault nor Tortorella were/are interested in coaching the players they actually have. They’re coaching a system they expect players to conform to. It’s gotten so bad that people are oblivious to the talent of this franchise.

Zamula and Errson will be the final contributions from the Hextall regime which was still providing one solid to good player every season. It’s absurd that Zamula hasn’t gotten a chance in the NHL before now, as a result of Coach/GM bad decisions.

This team could be very very good if it hadn’t squandered so many assets doing dumb shit like acquiring Ristolainen, paying to send Ghost away, giving up on Ryan Hartman even though he was basically a perfect player for the team and city….

Still, despite malpractice from Fletcher, there is a solid core here. And they could be a Seattle type balanced attack team if they wanted to, with a good chance at the playoffs and seeing if Hart could get hot….

But, they’re still being held back by a coach/gm who want a 4th line straight out of 1993. So they’ll end up around 8th-12th in the league, not high enough for a franchise changing draft pick (who they won’t let into the NHL until 2028 anyhow) and continue middling about until Tortorella is fired or Michkov comes over; if either ever happens.

But the Flyers are a PRIME mid-season coach firing candidate this year! This team almost perfectly fits the mold of a team that a January coaching change sparks a second-half run that has people talking about the Flyers being the hottest team coming into the playoffs:

– Asshole coach the players would be invigorated to get rid off
– Once-talented veterans with something to prove
– Young kids stagnating behind less-skilled veterans, and, of course,
– Talented young goaltender with the ability to steal playoff series

Let’s see if they ever recognize it.

MarioD

MarioD

October 13, 2023

What are the chances they like how they played last night and stick with the same lineup Saturday? Then you have to give respect to the veterans for the HOME opener. And given the competition is the dregs of the league (Columbus, Ottawa, Vancouver) they could well be 3-0 and you don’t mess with a winning formula….

The first six weeks of the NHL is meaningless and unpredictable randomness. Play settles down around Veteran’s Day.

But there is talent on this team that people continue to undervalue. Travis Sanheim being the prime example. Zamula being another. The Flyers have been a much better team than their record due to shit decision from the GM and shit coaching. Provorov’s comments are part of this. Neither Vigneault nor Tortorella were/are interested in coaching the players they actually have. They’re coaching a system they expect players to conform to. It’s gotten so bad that people are oblivious to the talent of this franchise.

Zamula and Errson will be the final contributions from the Hextall regime which was still providing one solid to good player every season. It’s absurd that Zamula hasn’t gotten a chance in the NHL before now, as a result of Coach/GM bad decisions.

This team could be very very good if it hadn’t squandered so many assets doing dumb shit like acquiring Ristolainen, paying to send Ghost away, giving up on Ryan Hartman even though he was basically a perfect player for the team and city….

Still, despite malpractice from Fletcher, there is a solid core here. And they could be a Seattle type balanced attack team if they wanted to, with a good chance at the playoffs and seeing if Hart could get hot….

But, they’re still being held back by a coach/gm who want a 4th line straight out of 1993. So they’ll end up around 8th-12th in the league, not high enough for a franchise changing draft pick (who they won’t let into the NHL until 2028 anyhow) and continue middling about until Tortorella is fired or Michkov comes over; if either ever happens.

But the Flyers are a PRIME mid-season coach firing candidate this year! This team almost perfectly fits the mold of a team that a January coaching change sparks a second-half run that has people talking about the Flyers being the hottest team coming into the playoffs:

– Asshole coach the players would be invigorated to get rid off
– Once-talented veterans with something to prove
– Young kids stagnating behind less-skilled veterans, and, of course,
– Talented young goaltender with the ability to steal playoff series

Let’s see if they ever recognize it.

MarioD Replying to MarioD
Scott Ferry

Scott Ferry

October 13, 2023

The game is tomorrow. Why don’t we wait until we see what the line up actually is before we complain about it?

Also, I believe there is almost zero chance that Torts gets fired this year. It would take a Babcock level scandal for Briere to give him the axe.

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MarioD

MarioD

October 13, 2023

Why shouldn’t I simply discuss the things that they are actually doing?

I also think there’s zero chance Tortorella gets fired. Just like they wouldn’t fire AV until they exhausted all the ways they could imagine trying to get that square peg to fit in a round hole.

MarioD Replying to MarioD
Scott Ferry

Scott Ferry

October 13, 2023

The game is tomorrow. Why don’t we wait until we see what the line up actually is before we complain about it?

Also, I believe there is almost zero chance that Torts gets fired this year. It would take a Babcock level scandal for Briere to give him the axe.

Chad

Chad

October 13, 2023

I never really understood the Staal signing or where this “respect the vet” thing came from. He’s never been a particularly good NHL dman – even in his prime. He never skated or moved the puck well. He’s never been better than mediocre defensively. Even last year, he got the minutes he did in the playoffs because of injuries, and he wasn’t great, just passable in a “hold on for dear life” sorta way. He fits right into the core philosophy of the organization trusting known-no-ceiling, never-was vets like Nate Thompson rather than letting kids with upside play. At least he doesn’t have the Yandle game streak to keep him in the lineup every night, but somehow I still see him getting lots of games. I really don’t see what the kids are supposed to learn from a guy they’re already better than.

Chad

Chad

October 13, 2023

I never really understood the Staal signing or where this “respect the vet” thing came from. He’s never been a particularly good NHL dman – even in his prime. He never skated or moved the puck well. He’s never been better than mediocre defensively. Even last year, he got the minutes he did in the playoffs because of injuries, and he wasn’t great, just passable in a “hold on for dear life” sorta way. He fits right into the core philosophy of the organization trusting known-no-ceiling, never-was vets like Nate Thompson rather than letting kids with upside play. At least he doesn’t have the Yandle game streak to keep him in the lineup every night, but somehow I still see him getting lots of games. I really don’t see what the kids are supposed to learn from a guy they’re already better than.

Chad Replying to Chad
Scott Ferry

Scott Ferry

October 13, 2023

I agree. I think the Staal signing was GMDB’s worst move so far.

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