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Inside the Philadelphia Flyers’ change in style: Why John Tortorella wants to open things up

Charlie O'Connor
Charlie O'Connor
November 2, 2023
Inside the Philadelphia Flyers’ change in style: Why John Tortorella wants to open things up
Nov 1, 2023; Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA; Philadelphia Flyers right wing Travis Konecny (11) shoots against Buffalo Sabres left wing Jordan Greenway (12) in the third period at Wells Fargo Center. Mandatory Credit: Kyle Ross-USA TODAY Sports

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MarioD

MarioD

November 2, 2023

I have some questions about this data, though. Namely, it immediately confused me given this was just calculated the other day:
https://twitter.com/MeghanChayka/status/1719385205968941096
Which had the Flyers as only the 23rd highest controlled entry team.

This tracks with the general rule that the whole league is wide open at the beginning of the year.

So I’m curious to see this year’s Flyers data compared to the first ten games of last season, or other NHL teams this year compared to their entire last season, to see if this is really a change for the team, or just a contextual discrepancy that they’ll revert back from as the league year progresses?

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Charlie O'Connor

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November 2, 2023

I mean, I guess it’s possible the two games I haven’t tracked were heavy dump-in games. Also, I had the Flyers at 54.9% controlled entry rate last night and 52.9% on Monday.

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Charlie O'Connor

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November 2, 2023

But yeah, by my tracking:

Game 1: 52% (26 out of 50)
Game 2: 38.5% (20 out of 51)
Game 3: 43.2% (19 out of 44)
Game 4: N/A
Game 5: 51.9% (40 out of 77)
Game 6: 59.3% (35 out of 59)
Game 7: N/A
Game 8: 52.5% (31 out of 59)
Game 9: 52.9% (27 out of 51)
Game 10: 54.9% (39 out of 71)

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Charlie O'Connor

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November 2, 2023

Also, looking at this — I find it exceptionally hard to believe that as bad as the Sharks may be, that any NHL team could have a controlled entry rate of 32% over a ten-game sample. These numbers of theirs look WAY off.

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MarioD

MarioD

November 3, 2023

That would be a solution to the question.

I’m not vouching for them, I just saw Shayna re-tweet it and I did not explore deeper than reading the chart.

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MarioD

MarioD

November 3, 2023

That would be a solution to the question.

I’m not vouching for them, I just saw Shayna re-tweet it and I did not explore deeper than reading the chart.

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Charlie O'Connor

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November 4, 2023

Yup, those numbers were definitely off. This new batch from Stathletes has the Flyers over 50 percent controlled entries, which matches up with what I’ve tracked. https://twitter.com/MeghanChayka/status/1720825956426830123

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Chris Glazier

Chris Glazier

November 3, 2023

I wonder if the numbers in Meghan’s tweet are controlled for dump-in’s for line changes, etc., since I know that is how Corey adjusts his micro stats.

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Charlie O'Connor

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November 3, 2023

Certainly could be part of it. I only count it as a “dump-in entry” if the team sends at least two forecheckers in to chase down the puck (this has always been my tracking policy). Removes dump-and-changes, and also entries where the main goal is killing time and not actually gaining back control of the puck.

Kyle

Kyle

November 2, 2023

This was really, really good, Charlie.

Any consideration to some kind of an X and Os session on the show every few weeks or so? Something with video clips showing what the team has been doing lately? I’d love to learn more things to watch for when I watch the games.

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Charlie O'Connor

Charlie O'Connor

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November 2, 2023

Honestly, those types of stories take a really long time to produce, and I also don’t have the kind of video editing skills to be able to make them look the way I’d want them to look. If I want to be able to keep on pace for 3-4 articles a week plus 5 shows, semi-regular video pieces probably aren’t in the cards, I’m sorry.

I’ll do video-centric stories occasionally, but it’s unfortunately just not realistic for it to be a regular thing. (Also, from my days at The Athletic, video-centric articles didn’t tend to perform very well in terms of reads, so I think they appeal to a very niche audience.)

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Charlie O'Connor

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November 2, 2023

As for the show — maybe sometime in the future! But there are a lot of potential hangups. It would have to be a standalone YT only thing, because all the daily shows are presented in podcast form, too, and the audio-only people would be out in the cold when we’re talking about a video. And then there’s copyright concerns.

So in short, maybe… but not yet.

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Kyle

Kyle

November 3, 2023

Makes total sense. I appreciate the time and effort that gets put into the writing alone. And hey, who knows what could happen down the road as PHLY expands.

Kyle

Kyle

November 2, 2023

This was really, really good, Charlie.

Any consideration to some kind of an X and Os session on the show every few weeks or so? Something with video clips showing what the team has been doing lately? I’d love to learn more things to watch for when I watch the games.

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